Comments on: Heya guys!! http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/ Killing people one day at a time... Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:10:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Richard http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5505 Richard Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:39:10 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5505 I tried out the Obliteration spec and while as Unholy I usually do between 3 and 4 K with the standard rotation, depending on the fight, I can't break 2500 with Obliterate. I have the rotations down, have the Obliterate spec that you publish, but the damage just is not there. My gear is mostly Ulduar and Conquest vendor, with 2 level 245 pieces, and Omen of Ruin...not the best gear but not bad. Is there some secret to playing the spec that someone used to Unholy SS might miss? Just curious. In any event, thanks for all the great info, which has helped me more than any other site in the game I tried out the Obliteration spec and while as Unholy I usually do between 3 and 4 K with the standard rotation, depending on the fight, I can’t break 2500 with Obliterate. I have the rotations down, have the Obliterate spec that you publish, but the damage just is not there. My gear is mostly Ulduar and Conquest vendor, with 2 level 245 pieces, and Omen of Ruin…not the best gear but not bad. Is there some secret to playing the spec that someone used to Unholy SS might miss? Just curious. In any event, thanks for all the great info, which has helped me more than any other site in the game

]]> By: Endblade http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5498 Endblade Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:10:19 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5498 Ive had a burnout with WoW aswell, I just hit 80 about a week ago, and my guild is on Ulduar 25, ToC 10. It is almost impossible to find people to do Naxx. Then my guild gets pissed off when I show up to anything with Heroic gear. I try to get gear as much as possible, but its just not happening. Any help with my gear process? I'm a Nelf 80 DK on Winterhoof named Endblade. I'm doing okay now without WoW because I'm lucky because I also play CS:Source and Xbox 360 games like Halo 3:ODST, COD 4 and 5, and Tom clancy's HAWX. Any help on the gear process of pugging Naxx? Also there are a bunch of raids no one are doing anymore, like The obsidian sanctum and others that I see in the LFM tool. Any Help? I don't know how you can contact me without everyone else seeing it so maybe a thread on the gear process of new lvl 80s? Ive had a burnout with WoW aswell, I just hit 80 about a week ago, and my guild is on Ulduar 25, ToC 10. It is almost impossible to find people to do Naxx. Then my guild gets pissed off when I show up to anything with Heroic gear. I try to get gear as much as possible, but its just not happening. Any help with my gear process? I’m a Nelf 80 DK on Winterhoof named Endblade. I’m doing okay now without WoW because I’m lucky because I also play CS:Source and Xbox 360 games like Halo 3:ODST, COD 4 and 5, and Tom clancy’s HAWX. Any help on the gear process of pugging Naxx? Also there are a bunch of raids no one are doing anymore, like The obsidian sanctum and others that I see in the LFM tool. Any Help? I don’t know how you can contact me without everyone else seeing it so maybe a thread on the gear process of new lvl 80s?

]]> By: Sepulcrave http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5484 Sepulcrave Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:57:30 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5484 Hey all, Having played a s**t ton of WoW as well, I recently quit and have been goofing around with Rome Total War, TF2 and Left 4 Dead. It is nice to not have the MMO grind and repetition. That said, I recently stumbled on this: www.fallenearth.com Now, I don't know what to expect. Haven't touched it yet, still downloading on Steam, but it sounds pretty awesome. Post-apocalyptic MMO w/ FPS elements? I'm in. It is also a lot more sandbox than WoW (no classes, just skills and levels - be what you want). Don't know if it'll be any good but thought I'd share. It is an indie release that has been totally outgunned by Aion on the PR front, but I think it could fit the ticket. Hey all,

Having played a s**t ton of WoW as well, I recently quit and have been goofing around with Rome Total War, TF2 and Left 4 Dead. It is nice to not have the MMO grind and repetition. That said, I recently stumbled on this:

http://www.fallenearth.com

Now, I don’t know what to expect. Haven’t touched it yet, still downloading on Steam, but it sounds pretty awesome. Post-apocalyptic MMO w/ FPS elements? I’m in. It is also a lot more sandbox than WoW (no classes, just skills and levels – be what you want). Don’t know if it’ll be any good but thought I’d share. It is an indie release that has been totally outgunned by Aion on the PR front, but I think it could fit the ticket.

]]> By: ODk http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5476 ODk Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:24:22 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5476 CO was a different game before launch, you could hit top level in about a days time if you knew where to go, i bet with a lil prac people would be hittin max level within 12-18hrs even... but then they really hit the game hard with the nurf bat to slow down progress to try to keep the playerbase within the small bit of content they had, it was to easy to breeze through, but that was very fun, it was alot more fun to play 10 dif chars and level them all up rather than have to focus on one forever, but i dont think the developers looked at it that way, we all wanted alts pre-launch, after launch everyone ends up shelving their main until respec, then back to main after respec and bored without anything to do but pvp to finish levleing (because it was so easy to fly around from quest loc to quest loc you missed all the missions hidden in the landscape.... what are we expecting out of a game tho for end game content, if they give us max level in no time, then what do we want to have available to us to do..... to many games similar to wow, so are we really looking for more raiding? or is the bulk of the community looking for just straight pvp all the time? (i get bored with it quickly, unless its very large map, battleground like, with many objectives, ongoing, many npc ect.. basically open world pvp that never ends...... LOTRO's Ettenmoors is a good example of a good start to an ongoing PVP battle....throw about 10 different zones completely redesigned goals ect, maby that would hold peoples attentions, along with maby some group/raid content to gear up or such... (throw that gear content right in the middle of the pvp, FIGHT FOR IT! hehe) i just cant even figure out what even i want out of a game in the end.... i do enjoy the raid content of wow when im not dealing with the bullshit of the people/guild drama/raids falling apart/people afking/not listening or payin attn (WHY DO THESE PEOPLE PLAY?!?!) ...but ya kno, thats about maby one day a month if im lucky that we acutally have an enjoyable raid without drama/bitching/bullshit ...ramble...sorry, ill cut it off there.... CO was a different game before launch, you could hit top level in about a days time if you knew where to go, i bet with a lil prac people would be hittin max level within 12-18hrs even… but then they really hit the game hard with the nurf bat to slow down progress to try to keep the playerbase within the small bit of content they had, it was to easy to breeze through, but that was very fun, it was alot more fun to play 10 dif chars and level them all up rather than have to focus on one forever, but i dont think the developers looked at it that way, we all wanted alts pre-launch, after launch everyone ends up shelving their main until respec, then back to main after respec and bored without anything to do but pvp to finish levleing (because it was so easy to fly around from quest loc to quest loc you missed all the missions hidden in the landscape….

what are we expecting out of a game tho for end game content, if they give us max level in no time, then what do we want to have available to us to do…..

to many games similar to wow, so are we really looking for more raiding? or is the bulk of the community looking for just straight pvp all the time? (i get bored with it quickly, unless its very large map, battleground like, with many objectives, ongoing, many npc ect.. basically open world pvp that never ends…… LOTRO’s Ettenmoors is a good example of a good start to an ongoing PVP battle….throw about 10 different zones completely redesigned goals ect, maby that would hold peoples attentions, along with maby some group/raid content to gear up or such… (throw that gear content right in the middle of the pvp, FIGHT FOR IT! hehe)

i just cant even figure out what even i want out of a game in the end…. i do enjoy the raid content of wow when im not dealing with the bullshit of the people/guild drama/raids falling apart/people afking/not listening or payin attn (WHY DO THESE PEOPLE PLAY?!?!)
…but ya kno, thats about maby one day a month if im lucky that we acutally have an enjoyable raid without drama/bitching/bullshit

…ramble…sorry, ill cut it off there….

]]> By: Mojag http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5475 Mojag Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:03:49 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5475 Hey SJ! I've loved your site since a friend pointed it out to me. Have you been looking at the EJ site related to the upcoming patch and its effect on UH DK? It seems that there was an optimal SS build the entire time. I would love to hear your take on it all as I like your theory crafting ideas. Hey SJ! I’ve loved your site since a friend pointed it out to me. Have you been looking at the EJ site related to the upcoming patch and its effect on UH DK? It seems that there was an optimal SS build the entire time.

I would love to hear your take on it all as I like your theory crafting ideas.

]]> By: Shandreya http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5470 Shandreya Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:48:55 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5470 Hey SJ, I think the issue with MMOs that you're feeling in general is due to how they are all being made with the same basic formula. Lots of grinding to waste your time, spoon-fed rewards via content patches + expansions. The repetition of it all just sucks the fun out of the game. I noticed you were really excited about CO to start out, but it all faded really quickly after you figured out the basic layout of progress and its similarities to the WoW formula. Maybe someday we'll find a game that ventures out to expand the limits of MMO gaming... someday.. Hey SJ, I think the issue with MMOs that you’re feeling in general is due to how they are all being made with the same basic formula. Lots of grinding to waste your time, spoon-fed rewards via content patches + expansions. The repetition of it all just sucks the fun out of the game. I noticed you were really excited about CO to start out, but it all faded really quickly after you figured out the basic layout of progress and its similarities to the WoW formula.

Maybe someday we’ll find a game that ventures out to expand the limits of MMO gaming… someday..

]]> By: Delshin http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5467 Delshin Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:22:56 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5467 Ugh I tried CO as you did but like you said, its the mmo grind that becomes tiresome, that and I locked myself melee foolishly with no ranged energy builder so I have to wait for another respec Ugh I tried CO as you did but like you said, its the mmo grind that becomes tiresome, that and I locked myself melee foolishly with no ranged energy builder so I have to wait for another respec

]]> By: Huzzah http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5464 Huzzah Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:28:59 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5464 Honestly, the only thing that enabled me to overcome WoW burnout ended up being 2 things: 1. Focusing like a laser on end game content in THIS expansion and no other, through progression raiding guilds. 2. Time. The first one is a not a destination but a tool. I'm in my 3rd progression guild on my 80 huntard, 2nd on my DK . . . for WotLK alone. I've learned not to get attached to guilds, DO get attached to guildmates you identify with. Guilds will come and go, so don't get so attached you sieze up over leaving, or it crumbling. The last one ended up being a full year away from WoW. I started with Vanilla back in Ought 6 and kept playing right up until BC came out. Hated Burning Crusade. Absolutely LOATHED IT. Hellfire ruined the entire experience for me so much, I quit WoW. That's not my fault, that's Blizzard's fault for making an area that ran so many people away. Around that time my guild attempted to become a BC raiding guild (and failed) and that did it. I needed a break after a year and a half. Spent a year away from WoW, came back for WotLK. Have enjoyed it ever since because I feel like I'm making progress towards end game content. No feeling of progress is what burned me out. The real trick here is to set a goal and aim for THAT instead of trying to conquer WoW for all time. And make progress toward that goal. Arthas is my target. That's a lot simpler than trying to forecast what I'll do in Cataclysm (and beyond). Get to Icecrown and kill him. Everything else can handle itself once I accomplish that. But until then, that's my focus. Otherwise you feel like you are in a never ending ratrace that IS neverending. And that's depressing, and shuts down your enthusiasm. Arthas is MY end game. Once I reach I might set Deathwing as my new goal, maybe not. It might be you set Deathwing as YOUR new target, set WoW aside for a while until it gets here, and then start again. Or find a progression guild and finish the job with Arthas. Either way, you have somke options. [shrug] Just some personal observations from my own previous WoW burnout. Honestly, the only thing that enabled me to overcome WoW burnout ended up being 2 things:

1. Focusing like a laser on end game content in THIS expansion and no other, through progression raiding guilds.

2. Time.

The first one is a not a destination but a tool. I’m in my 3rd progression guild on my 80 huntard, 2nd on my DK . . . for WotLK alone. I’ve learned not to get attached to guilds, DO get attached to guildmates you identify with. Guilds will come and go, so don’t get so attached you sieze up over leaving, or it crumbling.

The last one ended up being a full year away from WoW. I started with Vanilla back in Ought 6 and kept playing right up until BC came out. Hated Burning Crusade. Absolutely LOATHED IT. Hellfire ruined the entire experience for me so much, I quit WoW. That’s not my fault, that’s Blizzard’s fault for making an area that ran so many people away.

Around that time my guild attempted to become a BC raiding guild (and failed) and that did it. I needed a break after a year and a half. Spent a year away from WoW, came back for WotLK. Have enjoyed it ever since because I feel like I’m making progress towards end game content. No feeling of progress is what burned me out.

The real trick here is to set a goal and aim for THAT instead of trying to conquer WoW for all time. And make progress toward that goal. Arthas is my target. That’s a lot simpler than trying to forecast what I’ll do in Cataclysm (and beyond). Get to Icecrown and kill him. Everything else can handle itself once I accomplish that. But until then, that’s my focus. Otherwise you feel like you are in a never ending ratrace that IS neverending. And that’s depressing, and shuts down your enthusiasm. Arthas is MY end game. Once I reach I might set Deathwing as my new goal, maybe not.

It might be you set Deathwing as YOUR new target, set WoW aside for a while until it gets here, and then start again. Or find a progression guild and finish the job with Arthas. Either way, you have somke options. [shrug] Just some personal observations from my own previous WoW burnout.

]]> By: Sadistic http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5460 Sadistic Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:02:01 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5460 2gig of patches.. awwww. 2gig of patches.. awwww.

]]> By: Sadistic http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/09/13/heya-guys-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5459 Sadistic Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:45:50 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2583#comment-5459 Good to see your still around SJ. Bad news about CO.. very few MMO's are ever great off the bat. Will an MMO ever be perfect at launch? I doubt it myself. WoW is giving me the shits again. As i type, Age of Conan is trying to download the latest patch. I bought the collectors edition when it was released, played it for a month or so and binned it. Now, after a year has passed, I'm going to have another crack at it. If it still fails, I guess I'll try something else. Hard to find something captivating lately MMO wise. Not sure if you ever tried Age of Conan SJ, but maybe you could give it a shot. I love the GFX and the gritty feel to it. I just hope the updates the game has seen over the past year has made it into something of that it should have been! PS: What ever happened to that side-kick of yours who was supposed to be blogging with you about DK's? It seems she got swallowed up by the wow-black-hole? peace Good to see your still around SJ. Bad news about CO.. very few MMO’s are ever great off the bat. Will an MMO ever be perfect at launch? I doubt it myself.

WoW is giving me the shits again. As i type, Age of Conan is trying to download the latest patch. I bought the collectors edition when it was released, played it for a month or so and binned it.

Now, after a year has passed, I’m going to have another crack at it. If it still fails, I guess I’ll try something else. Hard to find something captivating lately MMO wise.

Not sure if you ever tried Age of Conan SJ, but maybe you could give it a shot. I love the GFX and the gritty feel to it. I just hope the updates the game has seen over the past year has made it into something of that it should have been!

PS: What ever happened to that side-kick of yours who was supposed to be blogging with you about DK’s? It seems she got swallowed up by the wow-black-hole?

peace

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