3
Aug

PTR 3.2 Blood DK Specs

   Posted by: Skeleton Jack   in PTR, Specs

Add Comment

Heya guys!!  So it’s time for another new spec update for 3.2 DK’s!!  So Blood is looking pretty damn normal.  Out of all of the specs, Blood is coming through 3.2 unscathed for the most part.  *shrug*  It happens eventually when Blizzard looks at something and goes, “I think we’re done…”  ;)

Again there is no telling whether or not there will be a 3.2 release tomorrow on Tuesday.  As I said before every sign (excluding the Arena stuff) does point to an early release, but at the same time there has not been the standard 2 week Arena notice.  And with the new Arena stuff on 3.2…it’s impossible to tell atm.

There is no reason why Blizz couldn’t push back Arena in a 3.2.1 patch.

Blood 3.2 Builds

As I said before, Blood 3.2 is pretty much what you should be used to by now.  The one major point however is that most 50/0/21 builds are dead now however.  DRW did get some pretty decent buffs, and UB did get some pretty decent nerfs.  So don’t be taken in by that spec.

 

2H Blood Build - 51/0/20

Rotations

PS – IT - HS – HS - DS - RP  //  DS – HS – HS – HS – HS - RP

Priority System:  Unlike most specs, there is not really a priority system because there are no spare GCD’s in this rotation.  It has been proven Blood does best in BP (not UP), and it uses a ton of GCD’s.  So you must keep your rotation perfect.  If you have a terrible ms, this spec may prove difficult for you.

Always keep the 2SR in mind however, as you will want to fire off DC’s and HoW between GCD’s when possible.

Runeforge:  FC

Weapon Speeds:  Slow

Presence:  Blood

Note:  I am not a fan of Blood Worms as it will eat up AoE healing in a raid.  In essence, it can and will lead to raid deaths or unnecessary pressure on healers.  Because of that, I spend the typical 3 points in BW into defensive/utility talents since there are 0 available dps talents available at that point.

 

2H Blood RP Build – 51/2/18

Rotations

PS – IT - HS – HS - DS - RP  //  DS – HS – HS – HS – HS - RP

Priority System:  Unlike most specs, there is not really a priority system because there are no spare GCD’s in this rotation.  It has been proven Blood does best in BP (not UP), and it uses a ton of GCD’s.  So you must keep your rotation perfect.  If you have a terrible ms, this spec may prove difficult for you.

Always keep the 2SR in mind however, as you will want to fire off DC’s and HoW between GCD’s when possible.

Runeforge:  FC

Weapon Speeds:  Slow

Presence:  Blood

Note:  I am not a fan of Blood Worms as it will eat up AoE healing in a raid.  In essence, it can and will lead to raid deaths or unnecessary pressure on healers.  Because of that, I spend the typical 3 points in BW into defensive/utility talents since there are 0 available dps talents available at that point.

This RP build is not superior to the standard 51/0/20 spec.  However it gives more RP leeway with the DS Glyph and preventing RP capping, making it 100% viable.  You give up 2 points in BCB for more leeway room.

-Suffer Well Brothers and Sisters.

This entry was posted on Monday, August 3rd, 2009 at 8:13 am and is filed under PTR, Specs. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

41 comments so far

[s]eraph
 1 

How will bloodworms eat up AOE heals?
I’m coming from playing as Unholy dps, so don’t know too much about the Blood tree/talents.

August 3rd, 2009 at 8:46 am
Skeleton Jack
 2 

They have hit points, they are valid targets. Used to hear our Holy priest complain about it constantly.

August 3rd, 2009 at 9:12 am
Etalia
 3 

How about 50/0/21? Or doesn’t it perform as well as the others?

August 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
Puffymuffins
 4 

Something I’ve been wondering for a while:

Blood is obviously much more reliant on Armor Penentration, as opposed to Unholy.
What kind of ArP rating would one need in order for Blood to be ‘on par’ or at least viable compared to the cookie-cutter Unholy Spec?

I know Unholy should be the top-DPS spec on live currently, but I’m curious about giving Blood a try. However, I don’t want to gimp our raid too much, and find myself respeccing back-and-forth because I fail on getting the right gear for the job :P

August 3rd, 2009 at 10:04 am
BrinkleN
 5 

What about the DS – IT – PS – HS – HS – DC – HS – HS – DS – HS – HS rotation? Is the one u suggest better?

August 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 am
[s]eraph
 6 

Thanks for the response, SJ.
So bloodworms seem good for soloing, not necessarily for instances/heroics.

August 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
Dousk
 7 

Did I miss the reason behind why IT and PS have swapped positions in the rotation?

August 3rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
shopshopshop
 8 

You’ll most likely be casting IT first when starting a rotation because you can cast it while running and start in on your rotation quicker.

August 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Obliviation
 9 

um, the biggest thing im curious about, whether i should get some 1h’ers double axe from 1850/2350 pvp 2.6 speed, or will 2h spec be the best? for my guild im always the top dps spec, so whats it lookin like =)

August 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Skeleton Jack
 10 

It doesn’t really matter whether you do PS or IT first. Lots of rotations use PS first even though in a real raid environment IT gets cast first, even in Unholy where PS is better. It’s a moot point really, just so long as PS/IT are used in conjunction.

DS first is not all that hot. Realistically it’s not going to make or break a raid to get Abom’s Might off right away. And the DS Glyph means that you don’t want to use DS immediately when you have no RP. I think there might be a more ideal rotation actually (no time to find it now) that never has a DS after a RP dump. Not sure. But ideally DS gets fired when you have 25 RP.

Blood is a 2H spec. No substitutions. Also 50/0/21 is dead with the changes to DRW and UB. The spec works, but will never beat a 51 Blood spec.

Blood actually does more ST DPS that Unholy Live. If you’re wanting a ST spec, Blood is it on a stick. Just gearing primarily for Apr will get you where you want to be. Please see my BISI list for Blood itemization: http://www.skeletonjack.com/best-in-slot-items/

August 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
[s]eraph
 11 

Hey SJ, out of curiosity, how does the 2H Blood build compare to the 2H Unholy OB build, assuming both specs have at least 20% ArmPen?

August 3rd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Wondermike
 12 

Using the DKSim SJ linked, using my 16% base arp, both specs were close in dps. But the Unholy OB build beat the Blood Spec by 50-100 dps.

August 3rd, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Obliviation
 13 

is it possible to get my question answers =( i need to know what to buy =)

August 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
delusional
 14 

Blood if your main concern is highest dps. Frost if you prefer a rogue-like playstyle with a slightly lower dps.

August 4th, 2009 at 2:06 am
Moggy
 15 

@ Oblivation
You did get it answered.
No dualwielding in blood.

August 4th, 2009 at 3:36 am
Proetus
 16 

alright, i have a question:
I know in a blood build you need armor pen, and alot of it. I also know that in 3.1 the spec to be was 50/0/21, however i was spec’d 51/0/20.
Since i already have the spec you said to get, are there any noticeable changes i’ll be having? any kind of glyphs i should be getting with that spec? different gems+ench etc etc?

August 4th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Max
 17 

I play bloodelf which means I have Arcane Torrent. So would that mean I could continue to use DS first in this patch or what?

HoW+AT=25 runic power.

August 4th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
GothmogDB
 18 

The 51/0/20 Link is broken

August 4th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Rumad
 19 

So with all these changes what is considered to be the BEST DPS build now, Blood/Frost/Unholy – 2H or DW???

August 5th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Lethoriel
 20 

i were wondering why Sigil of the Vengeful Heart are better than sigil of awareness for blood? , I tend to only use DC when i have rune cd’s, witch arent all the time, maybe once pr. rotation if even, unless i mess up.
anyways i still dont get how DC Dmg for blood can be more important than DS Dmg since we use ArP Witch does only benefit our DS, of the two,.
someone please enlighten me on this one? :p

And another thought, i’ve been using a 50/0/21 build with UB for whole 3.1, now i think that im going to be better of with DRW, my only concern is if i REALLY need to glyph it, since i am very happy with glyph of disease to refresh diseases :)

August 5th, 2009 at 6:46 am
Lethoriel
 21 

- Just noticed that i didnt post this with the comments for the all over spec’s for 3.2 as intended, :p but i hope it’ll still get answered anyways since its in the blood only part of 3.2 :)

August 5th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Repeat
 22 

So with all these changes what is considered to be the BEST DPS build now, Blood/Frost/Unholy ? 2H or DW???

August 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
BH
 23 

Hey, i was just wondering what would be the best spec for a new 80 DK that has a few epics and some blue (no greens). I been trying different builds and yet to see the dps output Dk’s usually get. If you could link a build that would be great.

August 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
wieldit
 24 

not to grind ur gears but bloodworms seems to no longer eat aoe heals

August 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
devin
 25 

in this PS ? IT – HS ? HS – DS – RP // DS ? HS ? HS ? HS ? HS – RP wtf is (RP)

August 6th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Front
 26 

When Should i use Dancing rune weapon?

August 7th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Groundtaster
 27 

Use Dancing rune weapon after u pop ur trinkets and hysteria, and bloodlust (heroism) if u got a shammy…. basically u want to pop dancing rune weapon when u have all ur buffs active, if you hit ur DRW and then hit ur trinkets and other stuff, your DRW gets none of those buffs, so hit Buffs -> then DRW, for example, if u hit hysteria (u get 20% extra dmg) and then u hit DRW, your DRW also gets that buff, if u hit DRW first then hysteria, you get the 20% buff, but your DRW doesn’t…. and also it helps a lot if u can hit death strike a few times to get ur 2 blood runes and 4 death runes, then hit empower rune weapon to refresh them all, then trinket, hysteria, speed potion if u got, whatever other buffs you can, then DRW and heart strike 6-8 times (make sure ur diseases are up), i usually try to put diseases back on the target while DRW is up cause that puts 2 of each disease… i have one question, how the hell do i find other posts i did? can’t remember where i put them lol

August 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
John
 28 

2 in epidemic i was told was bad….

August 22nd, 2009 at 9:28 am
John
 29 

Sorry I had the last one let me go into more detail. 2 in epidemic is bad. You should be able to get a normal blood rotation off with 1 in epidemic by far buffing your death coil with morbidty

August 22nd, 2009 at 9:30 am
Belaziel
 30 

I was wondering how useful the talent Butchery really is, I’ve specced the 2 points into Blade Barrier for survivability. thoughts?

September 1st, 2009 at 10:49 am
ReallyHappyDk
 31 

thx so much dude, i did use one spec what i found in other site, my dps were 2000 when i tested this spec + rotation my dps raised to over 4000 :D

September 4th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
AJ
 32 

PS ? IT – HS ? HS – DS – RP> what does RP stand for?

October 1st, 2009 at 10:55 am
Vlad
 33 

Dosen’t anyone use Blood Strike in theirs rotation, it procs tallent called Bloody Strikes that gives aditional 9% physical damage.

October 15th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Thomas
 34 

Can the author PLEASE explain what all those freakin l33t speak abriviations stand for… I can’t understand anything you’re saying and its frustrating..

Examples

there is not really a priority system because there are no spare GCD?s in this rotation. It has been proven Blood does best in BP (not UP), and it uses a ton of GCD?s.

and

Always keep the 2SR in mind however, as you will want to fire off DC?s and HoW between GCD?s when possible.

Totally list on 2SR DC’s HoW BP and UP..

can you explain everything?

October 26th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Ron
 35 

What i want to know is what the hell is RP. Many people are asking the same question.

November 7th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Wycked
 36 

In the rotation for Blood DK you use “RP”
(PS ? IT – HS ? HS – DS – RP // DS ? HS ? HS ? HS ? HS – RP), for the life of me I can not figure out what “RP” is. Rune/Runic Power? if so, what? Tell me what it is and what it’s function is, please, man I beg of you!

November 21st, 2009 at 8:11 am
Jack
 37 

Ya RP means to dump runic power, like Death Coil, and Vlad, BS is a horrible attack when you have HS, Heart Strike. It will still put out the buffs from bloody strikes.

November 28th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Pavon
 38 

The reason for not starting an assult with DS is that when your target is diseased you will get healed after casting a DS, so IT, PS, HS, HS, DS, Runic power dump…
-The epicest way

December 1st, 2009 at 10:27 am
Wycked
 39 

Thank you! Thank you! I threw in DC not knowing any better and apparently it was a smart move. Not as DK dumb as I once thought. Thanks again Jack! *kisskiss*

December 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Tobias
 40 

I just started my first DK and have no idea what any of you are talking about, I am using unholy, my email is tobiastonner48@gmail.com if anyone can give me any tips I would love it, I need to know well every thing I have only to toons so I dont know much of anything, I am a complete noob still, so dont hate me, so if you do send me any info explain what ur talking about I am taking baby steps, I love this site, hope no one minds me putting my email up to get some extra help, thank you have a great day

December 14th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Stringbean666
 41 

please help whats the best way to spec a dps dk in blood and btw what does that rotation thing mean

March 22nd, 2010 at 5:26 am

Leave a reply

Name (*)
Mail (will not be published) (*)
URI
Comment
Back to top