Comments on: Unholy Talents – How much DPS do they really give you? http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/ Killing people one day at a time... Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:11:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ODk http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4521 ODk Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:41:43 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4521 with 0/10/61 you should be useing PS IT BS BS SS - SS SS SS - then SS BS BS SS SS SS SS unless your SS doesnt proc or your dont have glyph of SS then you go directly back to PS IT BS BS SS, SS SS SS now also add horn of winter whenever you have the time to, for the extra runic, blast a DC every time you have the runic and your runes are on cooldown (or even when runes JUST hit cool, cause of the 2 second rule you can get one GCD in there) - also for an extra burst of damage blow all your RP and get your runes as far from ready as possible preferably with 2 death runes ready to regen, blast empowered rune weapon and SS SS SS (or BS BS at end if no death runes) .... also useing your single death rune conversion to put up bone shield if needed, if not needed then you can either throw 3 BS in a row OR when ever you have 1 blood 1 death you can do as SJ suggested and turn the blood to death and throw an extra SS in there, those little things make a huge difference too, make sure to keep your garg up when all your procs are up, the higher the procs the better, if you can get your ghoul buffed thats just extra bread and butter.... i tend to pull upwards of 5000-5500 in 10m ulduar without even a tier 8 4pc or BIS gear, tho that usually averages to 4700-5000 overall, but with the gear my grp has, im generally first place or 2nd to the heavily geared rogue by like 0.1% or such This also with points in Pale Horse, and i think a couple of other utility talents, the rotation is good, it gets borring sometimes but its really effective.... good luck.... with 0/10/61 you should be useing
PS IT BS BS SS – SS SS SS –
then SS BS BS SS SS SS SS unless your SS doesnt proc or your dont have glyph of SS then you go directly back to PS IT BS BS SS, SS SS SS

now also add horn of winter whenever you have the time to, for the extra runic, blast a DC every time you have the runic and your runes are on cooldown (or even when runes JUST hit cool, cause of the 2 second rule you can get one GCD in there) – also for an extra burst of damage blow all your RP and get your runes as far from ready as possible preferably with 2 death runes ready to regen, blast empowered rune weapon and SS SS SS (or BS BS at end if no death runes) …. also useing your single death rune conversion to put up bone shield if needed, if not needed then you can either throw 3 BS in a row OR when ever you have 1 blood 1 death you can do as SJ suggested and turn the blood to death and throw an extra SS in there, those little things make a huge difference too, make sure to keep your garg up when all your procs are up, the higher the procs the better, if you can get your ghoul buffed thats just extra bread and butter….

i tend to pull upwards of 5000-5500 in 10m ulduar without even a tier 8 4pc or BIS gear, tho that usually averages to 4700-5000 overall, but with the gear my grp has, im generally first place or 2nd to the heavily geared rogue by like 0.1% or such

This also with points in Pale Horse, and i think a couple of other utility talents, the rotation is good, it gets borring sometimes but its really effective…. good luck….

]]> By: Hiromatsu http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4518 Hiromatsu Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:31:23 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4518 Jack, I go over your WWS from your new guild and I see the DPS you are putting out in unholy. While your gear is a tad better, I am seeing a huge split from my unholy and blood builds. In 25 Man Ulduar My Blood build is topping out at around 4500DPS. My recently respecced Unholy 0/10/61 cookie cutter build is killing me. My DPS barely tops out at 3800. Also the stated rotation. SS1->BS->BS->SS2 SS3->SS4->SS5 Just is not working for me. PS->IT to get diseases up SS1->BS->BS->SS2 SS3->SS4->SS5 I Can not get the SS3 SS4 SS5 out. Jack,
I go over your WWS from your new guild and I see the DPS you are putting out in unholy. While your gear is a tad better, I am seeing a huge split from my unholy and blood builds.

In 25 Man Ulduar My Blood build is topping out at around 4500DPS. My recently respecced Unholy 0/10/61 cookie cutter build is killing me. My DPS barely tops out at 3800. Also the stated rotation.
SS1->BS->BS->SS2
SS3->SS4->SS5
Just is not working for me.
PS->IT to get diseases up
SS1->BS->BS->SS2
SS3->SS4->SS5

I Can not get the SS3 SS4 SS5 out.

]]> By: ODk http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4515 ODk Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:58:41 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4515 Agreed, this site is extreemly helpful, when you stopped for awhile i was hating it, had nowhere to read up on DK's im so glad you came back before any real changes.... i really like to learn what i can from everywhere and build from there and this and EJ are the best places, i usually find some good way to use a skill but you allways seem to show me a better way to use it, wouldnt never guessed there WAS better ways with alot of them... Keep up the GReat Work.... ....ODK Agreed, this site is extreemly helpful, when you stopped for awhile i was hating it, had nowhere to read up on DK’s im so glad you came back before any real changes….

i really like to learn what i can from everywhere and build from there and this and EJ are the best places, i usually find some good way to use a skill but you allways seem to show me a better way to use it, wouldnt never guessed there WAS better ways with alot of them…

Keep up the GReat Work….
….ODK

]]> By: Kurzed http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4509 Kurzed Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:09:13 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4509 You don't love us that much !!! I feel cheated, I always loved you, but I'm willing to forgive ;) Apart from that an awesome post. You don’t love us that much !!! I feel cheated, I always loved you, but I’m willing to forgive ;)
Apart from that an awesome post.

]]> By: Grunda http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4502 Grunda Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:40:43 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4502 Great post. Looking forward to your overall thoughts on the 3.2 beating us Unholy DKs are about to take. Thanks for the breakdown. You have really helped me become a better DK, thanks a ton. Great post. Looking forward to your overall thoughts on the 3.2 beating us Unholy DKs are about to take.

Thanks for the breakdown. You have really helped me become a better DK, thanks a ton.

]]> By: Puffymuffins http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4501 Puffymuffins Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:10:15 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4501 What Obsidian said. Talentbuilds can be found everywhere, but the reason I love this blog is because of the in-depth talk about DKs and its mechanics. What Obsidian said.

Talentbuilds can be found everywhere, but the reason I love this blog is because of the in-depth talk about DKs and its mechanics.

]]> By: Deafk http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4499 Deafk Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:55:41 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4499 As always a great post from SJ keep them coming big boy xD As always a great post from SJ keep them coming big boy xD

]]> By: Omnicron http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4497 Omnicron Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:34:09 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4497 Thank you, skeletonjack! I appreciate all the help you've give us, your fellow brother and sister Death Knights! Because of you, I am one of the top DPS in my guild. I always come and check out your site for updates. Hope the Unholy spec will be okay after 3.2. Thank you, skeletonjack! I appreciate all the help you’ve give us, your fellow brother and sister Death Knights! Because of you, I am one of the top DPS in my guild. I always come and check out your site for updates. Hope the Unholy spec will be okay after 3.2.

]]> By: Diredaemon http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4494 Diredaemon Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:58:19 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4494 Agreed...posts like this are the reason why your information is so invaluable SJ Agreed…posts like this are the reason why your information is so invaluable SJ

]]> By: Obsidian http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/07/30/unholy-talents-how-much-dps-do-they-really-give-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4493 Obsidian Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:38:02 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=2272#comment-4493 Honestly I find posts like this to be the most useful. Its easy to browse the web and find what talents you should pick up. But to know why to pick which talent would surely help people pick the ones that fit their play style the best. Honestly I find posts like this to be the most useful. Its easy to browse the web and find what talents you should pick up. But to know why to pick which talent would surely help people pick the ones that fit their play style the best.

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