Heya guys!!  Sometimes our talents can be misleading.  *Very Misleading*  So the question comes down in how to understand these numbers in a relatively uncomplicated method?  Well, that’s where I come in!!  :)

Pets

The first thing you have to understand about an Unholy Death Knight is that a great deal of their damage is coming from pets.  Generally speaking your pets Ghoul, Gargoyle, and Army of the Dead will contribute between 15-20% of your total damage.  Of course the type of encounter can alter this result, but that is the average.  So saying that 18% of your damage is comprised of pet damage is not unreasonable.

Damage Sources

Now you have several sources to examine for determining how much % of your damage is made up by any individual source.

  • WMO DK Rankings is a great source (and I prefer it over WWS) to examine your raids (and your) dps, or to examine the top20 best ranked DK’s.
  • Recount is also a great in game mod that tracks your damage.  No time at a boss fight to check numbers?  That’s why God made screenshots!!
  • Simulators are great as well, such as Kathorie’s DK Sim over at EJ Forums.

Basically you can look at your self, the top 20 best DK’s out there for your spec, or simulations of performace and then see where all of your damage will be (or should be) coming from.  From there, the rest is pretty simple.

Desolation

Let’s take Desolation on the PTR for example.  On the surface this appears to be a 5% DPS increase correct?  No.  We already determined that we do about 18% of our damage with pets (whom do not benefit from this talent).  So realistically Desolation is only giving us 0.82% DPS per talent point.  Eyebrow raiser right?  I know.

Unholy Blight

Another odd example will be Unholy Blight.  Now UB will not be affected by multipliers or modifications (outside of the Glyph of Unholy Blight) in 3.2 release.  It does a % of DC damage (which already got all of those multipliers to begin with), so everything is already added in.  Were the multipliers to go into effect again, that would be called double dipping, and Blizzard is not a fan of that.  Wonder why?  *smirk*

So the Glyph will make UB actually do 28% of a DC’s damage instead of 20%.  So lets see how much damage that really is shall we?  DC, on average, does about 12% of your total damage in a full Black Ice (0/10/61) build.

So out of 100,000 damage (example only) our DC’s did 12,000 dmg (12%).  So the new UB will do 2,400 dmg (unglyphed) or 3,360 dmg (glyph).  So UB will in 3.2 release do 2.4% of our damage unglyphed, or 3.4% of our damage glyphed.  It’s an interesting play on numbers how this 1 point talent will do more than say Desolation (1 point investment).

Also an example like that gives you a great idea how valuable some glyphs *could* be.  For example, the new UB glyph will only add 1% dps.  Not too terribly impressive is it?  Especially when you read it and is says +40% damage!!  See what I mean about misleading?  40% bonus = 1% overall dps gain.

Other Talents

I could break everything down for you guys, but well…that’s time consuming.  And I don’t love you guys that much!  Heh.  But honestly, sometimes the best thing for you is to sit down and examine numbers yourself.  And I recommend you do it.

Don’t be worried, I’ll still give you talent specs, etc.  But don’t be shy about looking at a talent some time and then trying to break it down yourself.  You will learn something!

-Suffer Well Brothers and Sisters.

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13 comments so far

Tarragon
 1 

Judging from the amount of comments posted, it
seem like these style posts are less popular then others, but I’d love it if you keep them up. This kind of stuff really helps me learn my class inside and out. Then I can flaunt my stolen knowledge and seem like a god to my guildies.

July 30th, 2009 at 3:56 am
Sensamun
 2 

I like these posts too. I am Death Knight class leader of my guild and if you saw the DK’s in my guild, you’d understand why I need all the help I can get !!
Keep these kind of posts coming Jack sweety -x-

July 30th, 2009 at 4:51 am
Sarlek
 3 

same as the 2second rule post really, lots of people dont go as far into their deathknight mechanics like this, theyd rather just smash buttons with a cookiecutter spec (which is also why the build posts get more comments)

only reason i come here is for these kinds of posts

July 30th, 2009 at 5:04 am
 4 

Honestly I find posts like this to be the most useful. Its easy to browse the web and find what talents you should pick up. But to know why to pick which talent would surely help people pick the ones that fit their play style the best.

July 30th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Diredaemon
 5 

Agreed…posts like this are the reason why your information is so invaluable SJ

July 30th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Omnicron
 6 

Thank you, skeletonjack! I appreciate all the help you’ve give us, your fellow brother and sister Death Knights! Because of you, I am one of the top DPS in my guild. I always come and check out your site for updates. Hope the Unholy spec will be okay after 3.2.

July 30th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Deafk
 7 

As always a great post from SJ keep them coming big boy xD

July 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Puffymuffins
 8 

What Obsidian said.

Talentbuilds can be found everywhere, but the reason I love this blog is because of the in-depth talk about DKs and its mechanics.

July 30th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Grunda
 9 

Great post. Looking forward to your overall thoughts on the 3.2 beating us Unholy DKs are about to take.

Thanks for the breakdown. You have really helped me become a better DK, thanks a ton.

July 30th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Kurzed
 10 

You don’t love us that much !!! I feel cheated, I always loved you, but I’m willing to forgive ;)
Apart from that an awesome post.

July 30th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
ODk
 11 

Agreed, this site is extreemly helpful, when you stopped for awhile i was hating it, had nowhere to read up on DK’s im so glad you came back before any real changes….

i really like to learn what i can from everywhere and build from there and this and EJ are the best places, i usually find some good way to use a skill but you allways seem to show me a better way to use it, wouldnt never guessed there WAS better ways with alot of them…

Keep up the GReat Work….
….ODK

July 31st, 2009 at 1:58 am
Hiromatsu
 12 

Jack,
I go over your WWS from your new guild and I see the DPS you are putting out in unholy. While your gear is a tad better, I am seeing a huge split from my unholy and blood builds.

In 25 Man Ulduar My Blood build is topping out at around 4500DPS. My recently respecced Unholy 0/10/61 cookie cutter build is killing me. My DPS barely tops out at 3800. Also the stated rotation.
SS1->BS->BS->SS2
SS3->SS4->SS5
Just is not working for me.
PS->IT to get diseases up
SS1->BS->BS->SS2
SS3->SS4->SS5

I Can not get the SS3 SS4 SS5 out.

July 31st, 2009 at 6:31 am
ODk
 13 

with 0/10/61 you should be useing
PS IT BS BS SS – SS SS SS –
then SS BS BS SS SS SS SS unless your SS doesnt proc or your dont have glyph of SS then you go directly back to PS IT BS BS SS, SS SS SS

now also add horn of winter whenever you have the time to, for the extra runic, blast a DC every time you have the runic and your runes are on cooldown (or even when runes JUST hit cool, cause of the 2 second rule you can get one GCD in there) – also for an extra burst of damage blow all your RP and get your runes as far from ready as possible preferably with 2 death runes ready to regen, blast empowered rune weapon and SS SS SS (or BS BS at end if no death runes) …. also useing your single death rune conversion to put up bone shield if needed, if not needed then you can either throw 3 BS in a row OR when ever you have 1 blood 1 death you can do as SJ suggested and turn the blood to death and throw an extra SS in there, those little things make a huge difference too, make sure to keep your garg up when all your procs are up, the higher the procs the better, if you can get your ghoul buffed thats just extra bread and butter….

i tend to pull upwards of 5000-5500 in 10m ulduar without even a tier 8 4pc or BIS gear, tho that usually averages to 4700-5000 overall, but with the gear my grp has, im generally first place or 2nd to the heavily geared rogue by like 0.1% or such

This also with points in Pale Horse, and i think a couple of other utility talents, the rotation is good, it gets borring sometimes but its really effective…. good luck….

July 31st, 2009 at 12:41 pm

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