Comments on: Preliminary 3.2 Frost and Dual Wield Specs for Death Knights

By: Dre

Dre — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:35:45 +0000

Sup SJ,
I’ve been using a 15/51/3 build for dw frost, i have decent slow/slow 1h’s, both 219, nothing bad nothing great, was wondering if you knew anyway to improve on said spec, i feel like losing the bladed armor and the 5% crit are too big to move my points to the unholy tree

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=2305000500000000000000000000320053503500031123000331013510300000000000000000000000000000&glyph=131817060504&version=10026

By: ashlessburn

ashlessburn — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:43:33 +0000

wish i could tell you….love it i run diseases first thne i run all rp down then when i do my runes…my rp is back up

By: dylan

dylan — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:59:21 +0000

hey for that blood dual wield spec what is the rotation on it i would like to try it out

By: Knitemare

Knitemare — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:46:13 +0000

So many specs for different outcomes…basically we need to know if dw tanking is viable in 3.2(e.g Sen’jin Protectorsx2) and what talent load out is the best for this to happen.Also will Blood still be the best dps spec or are we looking at say a blood/frost hybrid?

By: Ashlessburn

Ashlessburn — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:14:23 +0000

the second one is what i would consider the preferred one with ability to heal and the ridiculous crit rating…pulling dont need white dmg here lol….however i am fearful of the white dmg bc it stays the same

By: Ashlessburn

Ashlessburn — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:38:34 +0000

Nice builds and i agree i did some playing around and i created too builds that did very nice would love for you to try them out both on dual wield do some amazing dps

first is straight dps

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=2305000500000000000000000000325053503500030123000330013510000000000000000000000000000000&glyph=000000000000&version=10147

this is a blood/ frost build which is really nice bc of the dual wield the toughness talent directly effects the bladed armour talent which is added to both blades….its nice rolling nice dps…switched to my 2h dps was doing a tad bit better..but i have crapy 2h weapons

next build changes one thing,, and bleive it or not its a major one

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=2305000500030000000000000000320053503500030123000330013512000000000000000000000000000000&glyph=000000000000&version=10147

basically remove the toughness talent and put it into healing and spell dmg, i like this build alot for going against large group of mobs u can through out dps and heal urself. however not as much dps as the earlier one

but test these out tell me what you think

thank you

By: Marv

Marv — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:55:26 +0000

Hey SJ,

Thanks for the reply that I’ll quote here:
“Marv, you want proof on DPS performance for PTR specs that cannot be tested with BISI gear in raids with full buffs/debuffs on multiple occasions, while some things are still bugged? Seriously? Think about that for a minute.”

You got me there. Actually the facts you sum up there are exactly the reasons for me to ask the question.
But your claims about the relative value of dps specs in the PTR must have been based on something substantial, else why post it in such a conclusive manner?

By: soul

soul — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:59:42 +0000

hey this may help answer some questions people had. Like sj said “Slow/Slow is now the desired weapon combinations for DW. also if you have tried or use the hb rotation, try getting some good slow 1hs and see how that works out.reason being is that i use it live and rip out great dps and i tried it on ptr with so very poor 1hs and i pull the same if not more dps on a H dummy unbuffed

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=2305000500000000000000000000320053503520031123000330013510200000000000000000000000000000&glyph=181317060504&version=10116

By: Vespian

Vespian — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:01:53 +0000

Parry haste is less of a problem you make it to be SJ. I agree that for minmaxxing, you should never burden your guild with the extra hits you recieve, but it comes down to dropping 2 extra percentages of dodge.

Yes, Frost Strike will suffer some, I just wonder by how much. I’m currently still close to expertise softcap, so only parry affects me in PvE, or some bosses with shields perhaps..

Will we lose the RP we use on Parried FS? (thinking yes)

By: shopshopshop

shopshopshop — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:07:32 +0000

Any evidance that the HB-frost spec on live (17/51/3) is superior to the IT machine gun?