Comments on: If you missed the PTR nerfs… http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/ Killing people one day at a time... Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:11:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Odox http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4116 Odox Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:03:10 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4116 Hello SJ! Hello everyone! There is a few things that i want to say. Nerf to blood doesnt hurt unless you tanking but even then not too hard. DRW for 12 sec + glyph fixed is better to me since i wont have to bother waiting for full RP bar to pop it + saving 2 talent points in frost and moving them to unholy yay -> prob more dps and much more enjoable rotation... Now DW. Making a few strikes use OH weapon as well doesn't make it as fun as it was before. Threat of Thassarian seems to be a deep frost talent and I don't think it's going to be avaliable for other trees. Change to unholy blight... Seems to be like another dot to keep up in single target dps... which is gonna be easier then keeping old unholy blight (for me at least). As for AoE its a clear nerf. Again nerfing SS. Well i think something that hits for 6-9k in PvP and 10k+ on the raid boss. Might need a lil nerf. I don't know but to me it hits realy hard. +6% stam bonus not 10% health... well i don't know much about all the math behind it... but it doesn't seem to be too much of a nerf... just a little correction. But it might drop our HP raid buffed down from 50k+ to 46k+ Seems a little too much. No ugly anymation on the ground from Desecration anymore. Now blood strike will give 5% bonus dmg... but it may mess up rotation that we all so used to. In overall, I think changes are OK. Many of them may not make it to live. Many more may come we never know. Lets wait and see. Hello SJ! Hello everyone!

There is a few things that i want to say.

Nerf to blood doesnt hurt unless you tanking but even then not too hard. DRW for 12 sec + glyph fixed is better to me since i wont have to bother waiting for full RP bar to pop it + saving 2 talent points in frost and moving them to unholy yay -> prob more dps and much more enjoable rotation…

Now DW. Making a few strikes use OH weapon as well doesn’t make it as fun as it was before. Threat of Thassarian seems to be a deep frost talent and I don’t think it’s going to be avaliable for other trees.

Change to unholy blight… Seems to be like another dot to keep up in single target dps… which is gonna be easier then keeping old unholy blight (for me at least). As for AoE its a clear nerf.

Again nerfing SS. Well i think something that hits for 6-9k in PvP and 10k+ on the raid boss. Might need a lil nerf. I don’t know but to me it hits realy hard.

+6% stam bonus not 10% health… well i don’t know much about all the math behind it… but it doesn’t seem to be too much of a nerf… just a little correction. But it might drop our HP raid buffed down from 50k+ to 46k+ Seems a little too much.

No ugly anymation on the ground from Desecration anymore. Now blood strike will give 5% bonus dmg… but it may mess up rotation that we all so used to.

In overall, I think changes are OK. Many of them may not make it to live. Many more may come we never know. Lets wait and see.

]]> By: Izara http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4101 Izara Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:48:33 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4101 I had stopped playing my hunter and shaman when the DK came about and was loving every minute of it. Since they have screwed with the DKs over and over since their appearance on the scene, it has taken the fun out of it. I am back to playing my shaman and hunter as there is no joy in Icecrown any more. I had stopped playing my hunter and shaman when the DK came about and was loving every minute of it. Since they have screwed with the DKs over and over since their appearance on the scene, it has taken the fun out of it. I am back to playing my shaman and hunter as there is no joy in Icecrown any more.

]]> By: spikeepoo http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4100 spikeepoo Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:24:12 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4100 Like Sidd said, im tired of WoW and their inability to maintain what they come out with. I mean shit, take a few more minutes and actually think about what you are doing instead of swinging the infamous nerf bat and/or buffing the crap outta other things. Inconsistencies in their logic are starting to really get very very annoying. As with some of the previous posters, I geared my DK when DW was THE SHIT and now ive had to "regear" accordingly for a 2h spec. It now looks as if I will have to look into revamping my gear again to DW. /bitching, moaning, whining over with Again, I dont think I can thank you enough SJ for all the info you have given us. Its nicve to see ya back in action. See ya round on the server m8. Like Sidd said, im tired of WoW and their inability to maintain what they come out with. I mean shit, take a few more minutes and actually think about what you are doing instead of swinging the infamous nerf bat and/or buffing the crap outta other things. Inconsistencies in their logic are starting to really get very very annoying. As with some of the previous posters, I geared my DK when DW was THE SHIT and now ive had to “regear” accordingly for a 2h spec. It now looks as if I will have to look into revamping my gear again to DW. /bitching, moaning, whining over with

Again, I dont think I can thank you enough SJ for all the info you have given us. Its nicve to see ya back in action. See ya round on the server m8.

]]> By: sidd http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4099 sidd Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:11:55 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4099 yeah this is it for me.. i am so tired of this crap.. blizzard cant seem to take to the time to get it right the first time.. I was a DW spent a ton of time gearing up for it and one wave of the nerf wand and all that time is wasted.. and i never really had the desire to play since.. but i poke along kinda of half heartedly.. adapted as well as i could.. but i am done.. i REALLY wish someone will launch a game to best WOW .. but i doubt it yeah this is it for me.. i am so tired of this crap.. blizzard cant seem to take to the time to get it right the first time.. I was a DW spent a ton of time gearing up for it and one wave of the nerf wand and all that time is wasted.. and i never really had the desire to play since.. but i poke along kinda of half heartedly.. adapted as well as i could.. but i am done.. i REALLY wish someone will launch a game to best WOW .. but i doubt it

]]> By: Brandar http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4097 Brandar Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:01:23 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4097 Blood DPS is actually gaining with the change on DRW =) It's actually getting 1 more second (not huge i know but still) for 40 less runic power. Also really excited by DW hopefully being back ! Blood DPS is actually gaining with the change on DRW =) It’s actually getting 1 more second (not huge i know but still) for 40 less runic power.
Also really excited by DW hopefully being back !

]]> By: Makovich http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4096 Makovich Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:55:20 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4096 hmm does suck that the DKs nerfs are mainly because of PVP reasons, true we are known to be 'OP' in a pvp situation, that doesnt mean the ppl in the PvE should suffer because 1 person whined bout being able to kill a DK. Oh Well, guess we hav to make do ¬¬ hmm does suck that the DKs nerfs are mainly because of PVP reasons, true we are known to be ‘OP’ in a pvp situation, that doesnt mean the ppl in the PvE should suffer because 1 person whined bout being able to kill a DK.

Oh Well, guess we hav to make do ¬¬

]]> By: gromm http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4095 gromm Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:28:52 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4095 WERE A HERO CLASS WERE SUPPOSED 2 NOT SUCK WERE A HERO CLASS WERE SUPPOSED 2 NOT SUCK

]]> By: Vespian http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4094 Vespian Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:42:45 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4094 The issue with changes such as these, is that you cannot fully test the effect on the long term. That's why things always keep changing. The bad part about these last few patches however, is that the changes are Rigid. They're lowering stats more than just a bit, without thinking about consequences. I really dont understand Blizzards mentality towards this. It would be so much better if they lowered the things they try to nerf bit by bit during testing. Instead of destroying the class in one big blow, you slowly work your way down to an acceptable lvl of performance. In contrary to whats happening now. I think I'll stop being a tank. I might survive as a DPS, but losing 2.5K hp and a significant amount of armor and threat, that's like killing me. The threat I'm actually least worried about, since my average tps is already between 7 and 9k. The issue with changes such as these, is that you cannot fully test the effect on the long term. That’s why things always keep changing. The bad part about these last few patches however, is that the changes are Rigid. They’re lowering stats more than just a bit, without thinking about consequences.

I really dont understand Blizzards mentality towards this. It would be so much better if they lowered the things they try to nerf bit by bit during testing. Instead of destroying the class in one big blow, you slowly work your way down to an acceptable lvl of performance. In contrary to whats happening now. I think I’ll stop being a tank. I might survive as a DPS, but losing 2.5K hp and a significant amount of armor and threat, that’s like killing me. The threat I’m actually least worried about, since my average tps is already between 7 and 9k.

]]> By: Avatar http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4093 Avatar Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:14:19 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4093 Yup its sad to say that its nerfs allround, blizz is neva satisfied, all i can say is hope dw is gonna be worth it and maybe looks like a 50/0/21 2h spec with the new unholy blight talent and glyph. Yup its sad to say that its nerfs allround, blizz is neva satisfied, all i can say is hope dw is gonna be worth it and maybe looks like a 50/0/21 2h spec with the new unholy blight talent and glyph.

]]> By: untouchablej http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/06/18/if-you-missed-the-ptr-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-4091 untouchablej Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:21:13 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=1777#comment-4091 I have faith in you SJ! you will find a way!! =) I have faith in you SJ! you will find a way!! =)

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