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What about the Jewelers Gems, like the Bright or the Bold Dragon’s Eye?
Wow this AddOn sounds great! Are there pre-made scales for other specs and classes? If so where can I find them?
Bold Dragon’s Eyes are going to be the best keep in mind +STR gems scale with Kings and Bright (+AP) does not.
If you are a JC however a Dragon’s Eye is naturally going to be better than any run of the mill gem anyone else can get. Then again they come at a high price using JC tokens and having a maximum number you can use in your gear.
Thanks Skeleton Jack for posting these and going into such detail. These are a great benefit and now I can be sure I have at least two invaluable scales for my specs. The Pawn forums have a few listed there as well: http://pawnmod.trenchrats.com/index.php
Also for those copying and pasting Skeleton Jacks scales, be careful as the quotation marks are in HTML format. The import function in Pawn formats that incorrectly and you will get an error saying the format is incorrect. Just delete the quotation marks and type them in again when importing. I just fixed them in Notepad and then recopied.
Due to an HTML issue, when you copy these scales, the quotes get messed up by ?dumb internet coding BS?. That?s the lay man?s terms for it anyways? >.< In each three at the start of the scale are the words Blood, Frost, and Unholy. They are surrounded by quotes ? ?. These quotes are borked. When you paste the scales in hit the HOME key on your keyboard. It?ll bring you to the beginning of the scale. Simply move your cursor to delete the 2 quotes and then retype them. It should look exactly the same as before. The spacing, the quotes, etc. Just the copied ones don?t work. I don?t know why.
Just another important note, if you’re at the 9% melee special hit cap, you may want to jump into the scale and reduce the weighting of Hit, as after the cap, the benefit gained from hit rating diminishes rapidly (As an aside – I believe the spell hit cap is 17%, but only Icy Touch, Death Coil and Howling Blast use spell hit to calculate hit/miss)
Same goes for expertise, which from memory is 10% for Blood and 15% for Unholy/Frost, all this info is in the EJForums thread anyway.
So once you’re at your caps, remember to tweak your scales!
Any chance we could get you to throw up a quick leveling DK Unholy scale? I understand what you put up is great for the end game (T6-T7)stuff, but I myself, am not even close to that.
@Othala, You can use these end game scales as a good general guide as to which items are best suited for you.
The other thing to do would be (As SJ recommended) is to download RatingsBuster and make sure you have the “Stat Comparison” option set, that way you can look at two pieces of gear and see exactly what you’re getting, +50ap, -0.8hit etc.
The problem with using scales as you level is that you don’t NEED any stat over any other stat, the scales are weighted in such a way that makes your DPS stats stand out, especially for raiding, for levelling for instance you’ll probably want a bit of extra stam etc.
I tried installing this addon but my WoW crashes every time I try and load in with it enabled.
I was reading the comments on Curse for it and other people have the same problem but… they said that if you disable your Ace3 or whatever it will fix it.
I don’t have Ace3, I have Ace2 and disabled anything related to it, but it didn’t help.
Any advice?
P.S. Skeleton Jack, what server you play on?
I’m not aware of that problem myself, as it’s never happened to me or any of my friends/guildmates I’ve convinced to use it. I’d recommend re-reading the comments at Curse about the issue or even doing a google search.
I play on Bronzebeard Alliance side. Up on the top of my page there are 2 tabs. HOME and ABOUT. The ABOUT page has info about me as far as WoW goes.
Othala – As I mentioned in the post about using that “gray matter” upstairs…you have to make some decisions on your own. Str/Hit are you best stats for dps. Then Expertise. Then Haste is your worst hands down. And everything else falls somewhere between Exp and Haste.
Is it me or is this useless? I don’t want to already have something to be able to compare it and I can’t find a way to do it from atlas loot or anything like that. What are you suppose to do? outbid on drops then compare them and say ehh It’s not really an upgrade, lets open a gm ticket.
Denounce…
First off, your name is a bad pun. If you’re in to humor…give up on it.
The compare window is just for toying around. It is *not* the main feature of this mod. You load the addon, you make sure you have the scales loaded in, and you make sure it is working. And if you’ve done that, every time you click on any item it will have “Blood/Unholy/Frost” in the window with a numeric value after the word. This number will be the APE value. That’s basically x Attack Power. So if one items is worth 150 APE, and another is worth 200 APE, well which one is better?
If you are not seeing the Blood APE (Frost or Unholy, whichever you use) number coming up in any linked/hover over item, then you did not properly install the mod and the scale. Please read the instructions again, and if you still can’t make it work then just tell me what the problem you’re having is.
Are you not forgetting that you get ap from armor , almost all builds have that
I don’t wear leather. It doesn’t happen. Unlike fury war or retadins, we can tank for short periods in dps gear. Due to our CD’s abilities we have that advantage. So I only wear plate so I can do that as needed. And when you’re talking about plate upgrades from the plate, the armor differential (and even more so the AP from the talent), is so much of an inconsequential difference that I don’t feel its something you need to really delve into. However if you disagree…AP = AP. You can add that in if you like.
Great post on Pawn ‘jack, and great blog!
I’m currently running the 0/31/40 DW spec, so I tinkered with the frost/unholy scales (just avg’d out the values for simplicities sake), but I noticed there’s no input for 1H’s. Got an idea or a place to find one on this?
Hey man thanks a lot for publishing all this info. I’ve been using pawn for a long time now but never used a specific set of values till now, it really makes a difference.
Hey Jack thanks for this site i really enjoy coming here and reading but i was wondering if there has been a update to the Pwn values cause of all the changes to Haste and ArP?
Keep up the awesome work
For some reason these pawn scales are not understood by the mod and don’t work. Iwas able to get the scales from Shadowpanther for rogues working.
Thanks for the scales.
To get raw, unformatted code in wordpress, use the [RAW] [RAW] [/RAW] tag. For example: [RAW]( Pawn: v1: “Blood”: ArmorPenetration=1.0456, RedSocket=40.912, CritRating=1.1453, ColorlessSocket=40.912, Strength=2.557, ExpertiseRating=1.7023, Agility=0.7336, HitRating=2.6609, BlueSocket=17.899, YellowSocket=25.9161, TwoHandDps=8.9665, HasteRating=0.564, Ap=1 )[/RAW]

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