Comments on: PvP in WoW WotLK…and Wintergrasp… It’s a love/hate relationship… http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/ Killing people one day at a time... Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:10:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Hunter http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-5953 Hunter Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:08:16 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-5953 From WoWwiki: Since patch 3.2.0 you have to queue to join the battle of Wintergrasp. To join the queue, you can either talk to Wintergrasp battlemaster in any of the major cities or just simply enter the zone. You also need to be at least Level 75 to join. The queue will accept 120 players from each faction, so a total of 240 players can join the battle. Level 80 players have a higher probability to join the queue than lower level players. From WoWwiki:
Since patch 3.2.0 you have to queue to join the battle of Wintergrasp. To join the queue, you can either talk to Wintergrasp battlemaster in any of the major cities or just simply enter the zone. You also need to be at least Level 75 to join. The queue will accept 120 players from each faction, so a total of 240 players can join the battle. Level 80 players have a higher probability to join the queue than lower level players.

]]> By: Blaine http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-4270 Blaine Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:43:45 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-4270 I think Wintergrasp works pretty darned well at this point. My side on my server is usually outnumbered, and tenacity does not quite make up for it. Ie. when we are evenly matched we win about 50% of the time, when we have stacks of tenacity we win less often, but at least it's still possible to win when we are outnumbered 3-1, although more difficult. I think this is the way it should be. A slight numbers disadvantage still motivates people to get in the game, but if there was no such thing as tenacity, I just wouldn't go to WG. Ever. I don't like automatic lose. I think it works great the way it is now. I think Wintergrasp works pretty darned well at this point. My side on my server is usually outnumbered, and tenacity does not quite make up for it. Ie. when we are evenly matched we win about 50% of the time, when we have stacks of tenacity we win less often, but at least it’s still possible to win when we are outnumbered 3-1, although more difficult. I think this is the way it should be. A slight numbers disadvantage still motivates people to get in the game, but if there was no such thing as tenacity, I just wouldn’t go to WG. Ever. I don’t like automatic lose. I think it works great the way it is now.

]]> By: Stephen Courton http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-4047 Stephen Courton Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:44:40 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-4047 Why can't Blizzard just fix this problem? Is it really that hard to program the computer to not allow players under level 70 in there? I doubt they planned on allowing low levels in WG? So fix it. Or if Blizzard thinks its ok for under 70's to join in at least fix the tenacity calculation system so their participation doesn't hurt your side. Blizzard can easily fix this, so why don't they? Why can’t Blizzard just fix this problem? Is it really that hard to program the computer to not allow players under level 70 in there? I doubt they planned on allowing low levels in WG? So fix it. Or if Blizzard thinks its ok for under 70’s to join in at least fix the tenacity calculation system so their participation doesn’t hurt your side. Blizzard can easily fix this, so why don’t they?

]]> By: LinweSurion http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-2039 LinweSurion Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:33:27 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-2039 Ok. So after reading all these post, I did get an answer to my questions :) Apparently any level can go to WG. Now I'm seriously thinking my little level 69 just needs to stay home for a while yet. I think I'll let her grow up a bit first. Thanks yall! Ok. So after reading all these post, I did get an answer to my questions :) Apparently any level can go to WG. Now I’m seriously thinking my little level 69 just needs to stay home for a while yet. I think I’ll let her grow up a bit first. Thanks yall!

]]> By: Skeleton Jack http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-1264 Skeleton Jack Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:01:36 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-1264 A "twink" has no place in WG, end of story. Just because you think you're entitled to be there does not mean that you are. Whatever kills you can manage to earn in a vehicle will not compensate for your lack of contribution for all of the time you will not be in one, which will be considerable on average. Just because you're "there" doesn't mean we have to like it or support it. There will always be people who care more about themselves, than the community at large. And you are one of those people. A “twink” has no place in WG, end of story. Just because you think you’re entitled to be there does not mean that you are. Whatever kills you can manage to earn in a vehicle will not compensate for your lack of contribution for all of the time you will not be in one, which will be considerable on average. Just because you’re “there” doesn’t mean we have to like it or support it. There will always be people who care more about themselves, than the community at large. And you are one of those people.

]]> By: 19 twink! http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-1242 19 twink! Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:32:00 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-1242 First off, anyone who think that A lower level person can't help out in wintergrasp needs to think before they talk chit. I have personally killed a ton of lvl 80's in wintergrasp via vehicles and cannons, " and a few afk folks I found close to the fight, srsly". I know that EVERY person counts when it comes to the tenacity buff, hell I go there on my main to. and TBH I would rather see a lvl 1, sitting his arse on a cannon atually shooting and killing people, then some of the lvl 80's i see either afk, or just running around doing nothing, which happens a lot more then lowbies going to wintergrasp. When it comes right down to it, I don't go there for any other reason then to change it up a little bit and do something other then wsg all the darn time with my twink, yes I pvp on my main also, but going once in a while on my twink is fun to.. IN SHORT Some people have always complained about twinks, but we are still here after all these years. its not going to change, neither is wintergrasp, or any future twink activities that happen. so get over it Oh and P.S. to alexander post number 7 Who the faq do you think you are whinning about how you were in dragonblight doing your questing, when all of a sudden you lost your buff you never helped to get in the first place,, get off your lazy a$$,, and go help your team if you feel that strongly about it. people like you, who expect the world for free, are way worse IMO then any lowbie, twink, gold farmer, or emo kid can ever be. so do us all a favor and go burn your cd to WoW. might I suggest spores, or runescape perhaps for you. First off, anyone who think that A lower level person can’t help out in wintergrasp needs to think before they talk chit. I have personally killed a ton of lvl 80’s in wintergrasp via vehicles and cannons, ” and a few afk folks I found close to the fight, srsly”.
I know that EVERY person counts when it comes to the tenacity buff, hell I go there on my main to. and TBH I would rather see a lvl 1, sitting his arse on a cannon atually shooting and killing people, then some of the lvl 80’s i see either afk, or just running around doing nothing, which happens a lot more then lowbies going to wintergrasp.
When it comes right down to it, I don’t go there for any other reason then to change it up a little bit and do something other then wsg all the darn time with my twink, yes I pvp on my main also, but going once in a while on my twink is fun to..

IN SHORT
Some people have always complained about twinks, but we are still here after all these years. its not going to change, neither is wintergrasp, or any future twink activities that happen. so get over it

Oh and P.S. to alexander post number 7
Who the faq do you think you are whinning about how you were in dragonblight doing your questing, when all of a sudden you lost your buff you never helped to get in the first place,, get off your lazy a$$,, and go help your team if you feel that strongly about it. people like you, who expect the world for free, are way worse IMO then any lowbie, twink, gold farmer, or emo kid can ever be. so do us all a favor and go burn your cd to WoW. might I suggest spores, or runescape perhaps for you.

]]> By: Gosgosgosu http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-673 Gosgosgosu Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:38:13 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-673 I PvPed in Wintergrasp and I have to disagree, I'm very good with seige vehicles and I end up killing more people and destroying more enemy vehicles than atleast half the lvl 80s. Since when you're in a vehicle your gear and lvl don't matter there should be some exceptions. Also, I have won 90% of the Wintergrasp battles I've attended, and when I'm too busy questing else-where my side loses atleast 50% of the time.... just think about that. PS: The more Tenacity the other side has, the more honour they'll gain since they kill so much stuff, but the less chance they have to win! In one match the enemies could solo our catapults in 5 seconds flat, but they got completely creamed losing all their seige workshops and towers! (and they were the ones on offense!). Aggressive defense is my favourite kind >:) I PvPed in Wintergrasp and I have to disagree, I’m very good with seige vehicles and I end up killing more people and destroying more enemy vehicles than atleast half the lvl 80s. Since when you’re in a vehicle your gear and lvl don’t matter there should be some exceptions.

Also, I have won 90% of the Wintergrasp battles I’ve attended, and when I’m too busy questing else-where my side loses atleast 50% of the time…. just think about that.

PS: The more Tenacity the other side has, the more honour they’ll gain since they kill so much stuff, but the less chance they have to win! In one match the enemies could solo our catapults in 5 seconds flat, but they got completely creamed losing all their seige workshops and towers! (and they were the ones on offense!). Aggressive defense is my favourite kind >:)

]]> By: Skeleton Jack http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-264 Skeleton Jack Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:36:35 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-264 Why lowbie 70's go in there? Probably to check it out without realizing that it really does hurt our side when they go in there. So sadly, that's just a consequence of ignorance. Why do people who are not even 70 go in there? IMO, to grief you. I see no reason why otherwise. Why lowbie 70’s go in there? Probably to check it out without realizing that it really does hurt our side when they go in there. So sadly, that’s just a consequence of ignorance.

Why do people who are not even 70 go in there? IMO, to grief you. I see no reason why otherwise.

]]> By: Alexander http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-257 Alexander Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:52:33 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-257 My question is why in the world are low lvl ppl even going in there go they get the wintergrasp buff as well. Becuase I thought that you only get it in dragonblight. So my question is why are they wasting their time in there instead of lvling. That is pretty annoying. Hey sk I have a really quick question for you. Have we lost that buff on our server becuase of some lvl on our server? Im lvling in dragonblight atm and that kinda pi$$es me off if I lost the xp buff because of some low lvl ppl wasting their time to do a lvl pvp that they are screwing up for ppl in the first place. Sorry if I seem pi$$y but it is just a little annoying knowing that Im losing my xp buff because of that... >< grrr lol My question is why in the world are low lvl ppl even going in there go they get the wintergrasp buff as well. Becuase I thought that you only get it in dragonblight. So my question is why are they wasting their time in there instead of lvling. That is pretty annoying. Hey sk I have a really quick question for you. Have we lost that buff on our server becuase of some lvl on our server? Im lvling in dragonblight atm and that kinda pi$$es me off if I lost the xp buff because of some low lvl ppl wasting their time to do a lvl pvp that they are screwing up for ppl in the first place. Sorry if I seem pi$$y but it is just a little annoying knowing that Im losing my xp buff because of that… >< grrr lol

]]> By: Skeleton Jack http://www.skeletonjack.com/2008/12/02/pvp-in-wow-wotlkand-wintergrasp-its-a-lovehate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-197 Skeleton Jack Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:09:55 +0000 http://www.skeletonjack.com/?p=267#comment-197 I do have some...been debating handing that out before I finished Best in Slot posts...but I'm thinking maybe I should. I do have some…been debating handing that out before I finished Best in Slot posts…but I’m thinking maybe I should.

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